Despite having a Constitution and any number of Federal statutes that guarantee us all equality, there still seem to be plenty of creative ways for employers to discriminate against women.

On Out to Lunch we don’t normally talk about big issues. We talk about small business. On this edition of the show we can do both: Lelia Gowland’s small business, Gowland Llc, deals with the big issues of women in the workplace.

Lelia is a writer for Forbes Magazine, a consultant for companies like GE, and for national associations like the American Association for Justice, and an acknowledged thought leader on the subject of women in business. 

T.Cole Newton is the owner of one of New Orleans’ hip barrooms, 12 Mile Limit. Cole opened the bar in 2010 and it’s been on the Times Picayune’s list of the city’s top 10 bars every year since. That’s no small feat given the number of bars in New Orleans and the growing list of hipster joints that continue to open. Cole also co-hosts a popular bar-related podcast called “A Round With Steve and Cole” and in 2014 he represented the United States at the International Bar Summit competition in Bordeaux, France. 

Oh, and incidentally, Cole is Lelia’s husband.

Photos at Commander’s Palace by Alison Moon.